Role of Men in our Order

 

Mosuos pt 2 Our Similarities-Differences 3-1-24

This Regards the New Religion – New Order

 

         From Wikipedia

Role of men

Mosuo men

According to some, men have no responsibility in Mosuo society—they have no jobs, rest all day, and conserve their strength for nighttime visits.^[12] However, Mosuo men do have roles in their society. They help to bring up the children of their sisters and female cousins, build houses and are in charge of livestock and fishing,^[10] which they learn from their uncles and older male family members as soon as they are old enough.

Men deal with the slaughter of livestock, in which women never participate. Slaughtered pigs, in particular, are kept whole and stored in a dry, airy place that keeps them edible for up to ten years.^{[citation needed]} This is especially helpful when harsh winters make food scarce.

Rasa says:  the Role of men in our Order

There is much to say here so let us begin.

First, regards housing, we spoke of the female housing & a bit about men but let us elaborate.  There were 3 types of housing explained – an on-grid ‘track’ homes village – an off-grid homes village plus a “Mother House” Center with Convent, apartments, cafeteria & Temple.  The Mother House permits no men, but the others have men on conditions to be determined later.  As we expand {the Order} there may be some villages devoid of men, some with.

One important condition males will have to pass is no firearms of any type.  If he’s a hunter, he won’t be admitted, as he’ll have guns he either brings in or can get.

Let’s talk abut men’s presence in a village.  Some females will want to live together with a man, be it married or not.  He has to be voted into the village by the Elders – if he is nixed then if the female wants to see him it will have to be elsewhere.  But if he is present he has to watch is P’s & Q’s – there will be rules.  The rules are to protect the women & children, for example he is never to knock on the door of a different female or even speak to other females besides his wife except the courtesies of greeting – ‘Good Morning,’ ‘Good Evening,’ ‘Good Day’ etc.  If for some reason he is asked to do some work such as repair, indoor, outdoor work, if he is some place outside his own premises there will a chaperone present. He is NEVER to speak to a child un-chaperoned.  Even if chaperoned if the child is not his he is to maintain a polite but not intrusive or inquisitive conversation – keep his distance from children & other women.  If he is caught breaking these rules or there is a complaint he’s subject to expulsion – spouse or no spouse.  If the spouse protests she can go with him.

Each village will have a ‘Long House’ which is the hub of the community.  He is for no reason allowed to enter there – intrusion on his part, even knocking on the door, will be taken seriously.  This Long House is where the religious services are held, the home schooling, entertainment & study for adults & children, community meals, celebrations & recreation during bad weather.  It will also have laundry & bathroom/bathing facilities as these might not be available in the off-grid homes.  We will work on the off-grids having solar panels for hot water & instead of out-houses {dread the idea-been there, done that} have bathrooms which have large water tanks above them so the toilet is capable of flushing & with adequate plumbing to remove waste.  We do NOT want people to have to go OUTSIDE in the cold winter to go to an outhouse!  The coldest village on earth does that – this is cruel & unnecessary if one uses ingenuity.  Besides, it is UNSAFE for a child to be outside alone, going to the bathroom, in a community where males are present.  We will also teach the off-grid persons for their daily bathing when it’s cold, to use washcloths with vinegar - & as I said, periodically they have use of the on-grid facilities at the Long House.  Of course, the men do NOT have access to this – they will have to do what they can to keep clean, perhaps the daily vinegar & weekly dip in a large metal tub.  {Been there-done that} We might have an outdoor sauna for both male & female – females who want to be private do not have to go there.  We also plan to be near water, if not a pond or a pool, not a river, then a creek.  We will seek water sources when we purchase lands for our Order.  The original property – mine – has all of the above.  Obviously one can use these places to bathe {without soap}. And rules of propriety & distance have to be observed by the men toward others.  Here is where the lack of privacy kicks in:  in non-male villages we can be nudists in our privacy-fenced yards & in the water spots which are not habituated or seen by the public – but in male-present villages this will not be.  I do know that in Patriarchal nudist camps whole families practice nudity – I’ve been to two of them, spending many weekends, but we will not have it so.

These rules are strict vs what men are allowed in a Patriarchy, but that is why we have this Order:  protection of women & children & our rules will remain.  The best & safest villages for our Order will be those absent of men.  As with their presence we & the children have much less security.  The kids going out to play in the woods, the creek or river will always have to be chaperoned.  But if we are devoid of men a Mom could say, ‘Kids, go to the pond, have a good time,’ as long as all of them can swim & they are at least 7 years old with one child 12 or more, they are reasonably safe.  But with men around who know there are kids in the woods, they could go there & crimes could be committed.  I know ‘not all snakes are bad’ but the elimination of all snakes removes the bad ones.

So bottom line re villages:  We’ll try the yes men & no men villages & see where it goes.  If it works with them, they do NOT get more privileges; we just hold it that way.  If they cause trouble or too much stress to worry what they are up to – we expel the guilty –  if too many of them cause worry – we close the village to men.  What the spouse does is up to her. They do not have to commit crimes for us to show them the door – just break the rules.  For instance, the wife wants to spend time at the Long House.  She does her laundry with the kids, they bathe. {We recommend to all women – never leave your children alone with the Dad.}  She attends religious services. The library is there, she peruses the books.  She likes to sit by the fireplace with the other ladies, sometimes praying together, sometimes gossip.  The kids play, she feels good there.  But her spouse gets increasingly jealous, he wants attention, & he goes to the Long House & knocks on the door.  We ask what is it.  He wants to see his wife.  Is it an emergency?  Of course not.  This happens once, we let it go.  But it happens again & again.  This is not permitted & we invite him to leave, & here’s where the sticky part comes.  He might not want to leave ‘his’ house {he will not own it, all premises are owned by the Order}.

 Now phase 2 comes in which will be addressed in another chapter – how we devise security measures for removal of those who break the rules – male or female.  We must protect the Order, ourselves & children when evicting a man, & sometimes him & his wife, who will also take the kids.  Or it could be just a female who has run amuck. I’ll skip it here & discuss it later.

The other situation that permits males to a Member is the off-premises way.  Women might want to be a part of the Order, they want to go to either the Mother House or one of the village Long Houses for weekly Service {Christian Holy Mass & sermon by the Founder/Leader} – they want themselves & children then to have the community supper in the cafeteria.  They want kids to be home schooled by the Order.  They want the kids to benefit from the extra-curricular education – which will be extensive.  They might even want to go with the kids for the camping/scouting expeditions {we learn to build our own shelters!} & they want to have Sisterhood/friendships.  All this would mean she’d spend MORE TIME in the Order than at home!

But they want to or have to live elsewhere, for whatever reasons, & they have a male partner.  The male partner does not have to be a Member, & if he is not, is not expected to participate in anything we do, including the ‘dance-gatherings’ we’ll have.  She can go to the dances – if she does & he’s not a card-carrying Member who gets invited – he cannot come nor bother her there.  If he does, it will be a problem.

And what if she wants to quit this guy {for whatever reason, she owes him nothing--they aren’t married. } *We will suggest to women NOT to get legally married as he could then have rights to the children – whoever is born during their legal marriage – even if the kids are not his.  And he could use the children as a weapon or tool against her. They could be going to court, all kinds of trouble could ensue.  He could get rights over the children & even force her to pay without having them with her!*

Aside from that, they aren’t married but she wants no more of him – removal of a man can lead to consequences, & he could hound or stalk her when she goes to one of the villages, Mother House or dance gatherings.  If this happens even ONCE she might have to get an Order of Protection so that if he does it again, he can be arrested. They get dangerous when rejected {been there-done that}.  You’re talking about life-threatening situations to oneself & her children.  It WILL get complicated when men are involved.

OK, so that’s the deal where men are present – either live in a village where we permit them or live off premises with a female Member.  The women will be reminded that when you live with another person they automatically get rights.  A man who lives with you could be considered ‘common law husband’ & he could SUE YOU – for rights over children or PALIMONY.  Beware!

The best path for your safety, privacy, & security with your children is to NOT get overly attached to any man or give him power, sway & rights over you.  When you give him an inch he will take a mile.  You might fall in love {then your mind is befuddled} but you will fall out of love when you discover who he really is or if he changes his behavior.  When you’re in love you’ll also make bizarre & unfortunate decisions with your life, finances & freedom.

The best road is you have a family – Let your family manage at least part of your life – this is the Order.  This is your Home, if you remain in good standing, to always come back to.  If he makes it impossible & dangerous to stay in the dwelling with him & he WON’T LEAVE -  When he’s out of the house {never confront a man with rejection or leaving as that’s how you get beaten or killed-been there, done that} – Call the Order to help you grab your necessities, escort you out & take you to their premises {we will arrive if possible with a guard dog & blackjacks & several women in case he returns & tries anything while we exit you} – he won’t know which one, a non-male village will be safest, or Convent even safer.  There will always be temporary quarters in the Convent, extra beds, for emergencies.  And if he calls the Order we’ve not heard from you.

You remember that men are temporary – here today, gone tomorrow, but the Order is forever.   Rasa Von Werder

To be continued